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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on the sorry state of Social Media Conferences &#8211; comments from readers by Cindy C.</title>
		<link>http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/thoughts-on-the-sorry-state-of-social-media-conferences-comments-from-readers/#comment-4845</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So who has the best &quot;Social Media Conference Bingo&quot; card out there? ;)  Just wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So who has the best &#8220;Social Media Conference Bingo&#8221; card out there? <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   Just wondering.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Calling foul on bogus Social Media experts. Again. by Social Media Solution #98-Make your own Kool-Aid in a down economy &#171; Direct Marketing Observations</title>
		<link>http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/2009/09/24/calling-foul-on-bogus-social-media-experts-again/#comment-4836</link>
		<dc:creator>Social Media Solution #98-Make your own Kool-Aid in a down economy &#171; Direct Marketing Observations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for either one of us. I have to compete with those that can do it and those that are pretending to do it. Because of that, I have to prove myself and prove success constantly, and show I&#8217;m [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for either one of us. I have to compete with those that can do it and those that are pretending to do it. Because of that, I have to prove myself and prove success constantly, and show I&#8217;m [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Before you can truly talk about Change Management, you have to focus on achieving clear vision by Moving Forward Part 1: Creating Permission &#8211; scottgould.me</title>
		<link>http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/before-you-can-truly-talk-about-change-management-you-have-to-focus-on-achieving-clear-vision/#comment-4835</link>
		<dc:creator>Moving Forward Part 1: Creating Permission &#8211; scottgould.me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and it&#8217;s not a surprise, Olivier Blanchard already touched on this last week his article on change management and the need for clear vision, which I&#8217;d advise you go and read [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and it&#8217;s not a surprise, Olivier Blanchard already touched on this last week his article on change management and the need for clear vision, which I&#8217;d advise you go and read [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3 Conferences and a Funeral &#8211; Part 1: Good conferences vs. pointless conferences by Planner Reads &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thoughts on the sorry state of Social Media Conferences – comments from readers</title>
		<link>http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/3-conferences-and-a-funeral-part-1-good-conferences-vs-pointless-conferences/#comment-4834</link>
		<dc:creator>Planner Reads &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thoughts on the sorry state of Social Media Conferences – comments from readers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yesterday, I talked about the disappointment (to put it mildly) I feel whenever I run into a pointless social-media related conference. Particularly the kind that charges significantly more than the value it actually delivers, and essentially serves no purpose other than to further inflate the social media hype bubble instead of actually advancing the discipline. If you haven’t had a chance to read it yet, click here to go read it now. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yesterday, I talked about the disappointment (to put it mildly) I feel whenever I run into a pointless social-media related conference. Particularly the kind that charges significantly more than the value it actually delivers, and essentially serves no purpose other than to further inflate the social media hype bubble instead of actually advancing the discipline. If you haven’t had a chance to read it yet, click here to go read it now. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on ROI vs. &#8220;Impact on X&#8221; &#8211; Understanding what Social Media ROI is and isn&#8217;t. by This weeks #socialmedia tweetchat topic-Social Media’s Impact on Business and ROI &#171; Direct Marketing Observations</title>
		<link>http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/roi-vs-impact-on-x-understanding-what-social-media-roi-is-and-isnt/#comment-4833</link>
		<dc:creator>This weeks #socialmedia tweetchat topic-Social Media’s Impact on Business and ROI &#171; Direct Marketing Observations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blanchard&#160;actually was the first that I know of to begin this discussion a few months ago here.&#160; Companies all over are using social media to have an impact on their business like Kodak [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Blanchard&nbsp;actually was the first that I know of to begin this discussion a few months ago here.&nbsp; Companies all over are using social media to have an impact on their business like Kodak [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thoughts on the sorry state of Social Media Conferences &#8211; comments from readers by Olivier Blanchard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olivier Blanchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing about the Obama campaign&#039;s use of social media is that it wasn&#039;t really all that good. Twitter in particular was horrendous. It scaled, but it was mostly traditional marketing being pushed through social media channels. Smart, sure, but hardly the Holy Grail of social media usage that everyone has touted it to be.

As for case studies, what annoys me isn&#039;t so much that good case studies are being shared by folks who didn&#039;t have anything to do with them. What drives me nuts is that the majority of case studies being presented are absolutely horrible. They start out with lofty &quot;objectives&quot; but when you read them all the way through, they&#039;re sh*t. I read one the other week that started by talking about how company X&#039;s social media initiatives galvanized its community, increased awareness for the brand and generated a boon in engagement and conversations. Very well written stuff. But by the end, the only piece of &quot;data&quot; it presented as evidence was an anecdote about how their blogger (the guy who wrote the case study) was recognized by one of his readers at a conference and started a conversation with him. That was it. 

Another company (this one a major consumer brand) had its PR firm construct a wonderfully worded case study based on what it believes is a social media program. Truth: That brand puts on parties and events at major conferences and uses social media to promote them. In between, it blows off most of its &quot;fans&quot; on the more common social media channels. As a footnote, that incredibly successful social media program has failed to garner even 20,000 followers on Twitter, even with a full time Social Media staff of 4. Not that Twitter numbers should be a goal, but they are indicative of value and engagement. When I have more followers (and more importantly more engagement) with people than a major global brand with a dedicated staff and all the power of its marketing might, something is wrong. Yet, I find their case study of &quot;success&quot; popping up all over the place. I am not impressed.

Truth: Unless your case study is campaign based (like Dell&#039;s sales via Twitter), most companies haven&#039;t been in the social space long enough to have anything of substance to present. They&#039;re rushing BS &quot;case studies&quot; to get their seat at the table or help justify the funding of programs which have, for the most part, been shams. (The fact that I had to step in and explain to so many social media directors that ROI and non financial impact were two different things is shocking. And indicative of a much larger problem.)

Remember the Skittles thing? Everyone thought it was the most brilliant use of Social Media. It was a friggin&#039; stunt. Nothing more. Did it impact sales of Skittles? Did it really create a sustainable community around Skittles? This is what happens when traditional PR and Advertising people get brought in to create case-study material in a space they haven&#039;t spent more than 6 weeks exploring. It&#039;s just sad.

There are far too many people talking out of their asses right now, and even more people believing them, hook, line and sinker. It&#039;s a very dangerous time for Social Media. It could easily fall into the same trap that WOM did a few years ago. I don&#039;t intend to let it happen. That&#039;s why the #Likeminds team and I decided to put on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wearelikeminds.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/LikeMinds2010MediaKit.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Summit&lt;/a&gt; in February. To actually cut through the bullshit and find the real social media-related case studies organizations should look at and learn from.

Great comment, Gavin. Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about the Obama campaign&#8217;s use of social media is that it wasn&#8217;t really all that good. Twitter in particular was horrendous. It scaled, but it was mostly traditional marketing being pushed through social media channels. Smart, sure, but hardly the Holy Grail of social media usage that everyone has touted it to be.</p>
<p>As for case studies, what annoys me isn&#8217;t so much that good case studies are being shared by folks who didn&#8217;t have anything to do with them. What drives me nuts is that the majority of case studies being presented are absolutely horrible. They start out with lofty &#8220;objectives&#8221; but when you read them all the way through, they&#8217;re sh*t. I read one the other week that started by talking about how company X&#8217;s social media initiatives galvanized its community, increased awareness for the brand and generated a boon in engagement and conversations. Very well written stuff. But by the end, the only piece of &#8220;data&#8221; it presented as evidence was an anecdote about how their blogger (the guy who wrote the case study) was recognized by one of his readers at a conference and started a conversation with him. That was it. </p>
<p>Another company (this one a major consumer brand) had its PR firm construct a wonderfully worded case study based on what it believes is a social media program. Truth: That brand puts on parties and events at major conferences and uses social media to promote them. In between, it blows off most of its &#8220;fans&#8221; on the more common social media channels. As a footnote, that incredibly successful social media program has failed to garner even 20,000 followers on Twitter, even with a full time Social Media staff of 4. Not that Twitter numbers should be a goal, but they are indicative of value and engagement. When I have more followers (and more importantly more engagement) with people than a major global brand with a dedicated staff and all the power of its marketing might, something is wrong. Yet, I find their case study of &#8220;success&#8221; popping up all over the place. I am not impressed.</p>
<p>Truth: Unless your case study is campaign based (like Dell&#8217;s sales via Twitter), most companies haven&#8217;t been in the social space long enough to have anything of substance to present. They&#8217;re rushing BS &#8220;case studies&#8221; to get their seat at the table or help justify the funding of programs which have, for the most part, been shams. (The fact that I had to step in and explain to so many social media directors that ROI and non financial impact were two different things is shocking. And indicative of a much larger problem.)</p>
<p>Remember the Skittles thing? Everyone thought it was the most brilliant use of Social Media. It was a friggin&#8217; stunt. Nothing more. Did it impact sales of Skittles? Did it really create a sustainable community around Skittles? This is what happens when traditional PR and Advertising people get brought in to create case-study material in a space they haven&#8217;t spent more than 6 weeks exploring. It&#8217;s just sad.</p>
<p>There are far too many people talking out of their asses right now, and even more people believing them, hook, line and sinker. It&#8217;s a very dangerous time for Social Media. It could easily fall into the same trap that WOM did a few years ago. I don&#8217;t intend to let it happen. That&#8217;s why the #Likeminds team and I decided to put on <a href="http://www.wearelikeminds.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/LikeMinds2010MediaKit.pdf" rel="nofollow">the Summit</a> in February. To actually cut through the bullshit and find the real social media-related case studies organizations should look at and learn from.</p>
<p>Great comment, Gavin. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Becoming P2P: Principal characteristics of the new Social Business by Olivier Blanchard</title>
		<link>http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/becoming-p2p-principal-characteristics-of-the-new-social-business/#comment-4831</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier Blanchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think of these criteria as ideals. Are most companies ready to become this type of business? Of course not. Are they capable of becoming this type of business? Absolutely. So, in light of the fact that they are capable but not ready, we have to consider baby steps.

I&#039;ve already seen examples of companies choosing to partner with like-minded organizations, and outright rejecting organizations whose values weren&#039;t aligned with their own. At the enterprise level,that would be the rare bird. Marriages in that space are 100% about convenience, not love. But in the SMB space, marriages of love AND convenience occur much more frequently. Why? More opportunities for them. Think about the endless ocean of SMBs out there vs. the small sea of enterprise-sized businesses. 

That said, there&#039;s probably a reason I stuck that one at #10. ;)

Thanks for the comment, John. Much appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think of these criteria as ideals. Are most companies ready to become this type of business? Of course not. Are they capable of becoming this type of business? Absolutely. So, in light of the fact that they are capable but not ready, we have to consider baby steps.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already seen examples of companies choosing to partner with like-minded organizations, and outright rejecting organizations whose values weren&#8217;t aligned with their own. At the enterprise level,that would be the rare bird. Marriages in that space are 100% about convenience, not love. But in the SMB space, marriages of love AND convenience occur much more frequently. Why? More opportunities for them. Think about the endless ocean of SMBs out there vs. the small sea of enterprise-sized businesses. </p>
<p>That said, there&#8217;s probably a reason I stuck that one at #10. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment, John. Much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on E-Mail Marketing FAIL #239 by Olivier Blanchard</title>
		<link>http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/e-mail-marketing-fail-239/#comment-4830</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier Blanchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vance, did you just spam me with cookie-cutter  marketing copy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vance, did you just spam me with cookie-cutter  marketing copy?</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to lose your job in 140 characters or less by MarcAnne</title>
		<link>http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/how-to-lose-your-job-in-140-characters-or-less/#comment-4829</link>
		<dc:creator>MarcAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting article.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting article&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ROI vs. &#8220;Impact on X&#8221; &#8211; Understanding what Social Media ROI is and isn&#8217;t. by Social Media&#8217;s Impact on Business (and ROI) &#171; #SocialMedia Blog</title>
		<link>http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/roi-vs-impact-on-x-understanding-what-social-media-roi-is-and-isnt/#comment-4828</link>
		<dc:creator>Social Media&#8217;s Impact on Business (and ROI) &#171; #SocialMedia Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blanchard actually was the first that I know of to begin this discussion a few months ago here.  Companies all over are using social media to have an impact on their business like Kodak [...]</description>
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