Yesterday, Michael Wagner pointed me to this piece from Cindy Au (@Shinee_au on the twitternets) on the Matter Anti-Matter blog. It focuses on an interesting little incident that happened between Pinterest, a user, and the Mitt Romney campaign. You should go read it in all its glory here. Below are several of the good parts. Here’s how Cindy sets up the initial problem:
Recently, Pinterest was asked by officials from Mitt Romney’s campaign to change the name on the account of a user who had created a satirical board poking fun at Romney’s, how shall we say, epicurean tastes.
While it’s clear the Pinterest team appreciated the commentary and creativity that Eric’s board brought to their site, when it comes to setting a precedent for the rest of Pinterest’s community, things like fake accounts and impersonation swing both ways. It’s not long before you have more fake accounts pinning items and proliferating ideologies that may not be so easy to stomach.
In fact, Pinterest’s terms of service clearly prohibit impersonations. Here is the exact section. If the link doesn’t work for you, here it is:
General Prohibitions (Things you agree not to do):
(…)
- Impersonate or misrepresent your affiliation with any person or entity
There it is in clear black and white Anglo.
So… it would have been easy for Pinterest to deactivate the account outright. It wouldn’t be the first time that a social network shut someone down for the slightest infraction, no matter how benign or accidental. (Facebook, I am talking to you.) Pinterest would have been well within its rights to drop the hammer on the evil little user who dared spit in the eye of their TOS. But they didn’t. Instead, Enid Hwang, Pinterest’s community manager, sent Eric this message:
From: Enid Hwang
Date: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:51 AM PST
Subject: Pinterest: “MittRomneyGOP” username
To: Eric Spiegelman
Hi Eric,
I’m Enid, the Community Manager at Pinterest. As you might have guessed, I’m writing regarding your username “MittRomneyGOP.” We were recently contacted by officials from Mitt Romney’s campaign because they feel it’s very misleading and they’re requesting that it be changed to “fakemittromney.”
We actually really appreciate political commentary on Pinterest – and I know your account is clearly satirical – but we’re a young company so we don’t have a feature/process in place for “verified accounts” (such as Twitter) which would make the purpose of your account immediately obvious to any user on the site.
If you don’t mind changing your username, let me know. Or, you can just go ahead and make the switch yourself at: https://pinterest.com/settings. We’ve been brainstorming alternatives and unfortunately we feel changing your profile picture or adding a byline on your “bio” section on Pinterest may not be sufficient because that information isn’t included with all pins that propagate through the site.
We’re also really open to discussing the issue more with you, so you can reach me directly at [REDACTED] if you have any questions.
I’m sorry for the trouble and again, don’t hesitate to call if you’re concerned about this!
- Enid
One word: Human.
Here are several others: Mature. Respectful. Professional. Kind, even.
So what happened? Eric Spiegelman responded (somewhat nervously) with a plea to Pinterest. Here:
Hi Enid,
Obviously I understand your concern. And I can imagine as a new company (one that’s really doing a great job), you’d prefer not to have hassles like this. But at the same time, you’re a publishing entity that’s more or less open to the public, and I can’t in good conscience change my parody at the request of the subject of that parody. It should be obvious to the Romney campaign that nobody sees this as official, and that I am exercising my Free Speech rights in making fun of Gov. Romney’s utter tone-deafness when it comes to matters of privilege and class inequality.
That being said, I understand that you are well within your rights to delete my account. But I really hope you choose not to.
You have a wonderful service in Pinterest, and I wish your team all the best, however you proceed with this.
Best,
Eric
No expletives. No anger. No “you suck” and “how dare you” indignation.
Lesson 1: Enid’s tone in the initial message set the tone for Eric’s response.
Lesson 2: Initiative matters.
Now check out how Enid responded to Eric’s plea.
Hi Eric,
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly: We have no intention of deleting your account. It’s satire and it should stay! We’ll change the username (this doesn’t affect your boards, pins, or anything else about your profile settings) and we feel that’s sufficient. Once we institute verified accounts this, and any future issues, will be taken care of universally. That’s our responsibility so sorry again for having you caught in the middle of it.
I really appreciate your note (and compliments!) and thanks so much for your understanding,
Enid
Note that Enid struck right to the heart of Enid’s central concern: “We have no intention of deleting your account.” Perfect.
He then offers a compromise, which… may not have been ideal for Eric, but solves the problem for everyone (Mitt Romney’s epicurean tastes notwithstanding).
The first remark I want to make is this: The way Pinterest handled this violation of its TOS shines in sharp contrast against the way Facebook handles its TOS business. This is the proper way to handle TOS infractions of this sort. This is the proper way for a company to treat its customers, users and fans: With kindness and respect rather than with a stick, a whip, or a hammer.
The second remark is more of an outline, really. How to handle customer care & community management responses in instances like this:
1. Identify the problem.
2. Understand the problem.
3. Understand the ramifications of the problem for all parties involved.
4. Outline several solutions/compromises.
5. Reach out to the individual responsible for the problem in a non-confrontational, non-threatening way. Stiff corporate tones here probably won’t have the desired effect. Be human. Be relaxed. Be professional but somewhat informal.
6. Politely and kindly explain what the problem is and why it is a problem.
7. Appeal to the individual’s sense of community and fair play. This is important.
8. Offer one or several compromise(s) so the individual feels empowered to make a choice. This steers him/her in the right direction without any strong-arming.
9. Address whatever fears or apprehensions the individual has. Recognize that this is stressful. Make him/her feel at ease.
10. Apologize for the inconvenience. Empathize.
11. Thank the individual for his/her understanding, patience and sense of fair play. Be appreciative of his/her support. Bond.
12. Throughout the entire process, remember that just because you have the power to be an asshole doesn’t mean you should. Treat people well. Treat people well. Treat people well. Repeat this as many times as it takes. Human beings deserve kindness and respect, whether your product is free or not. You want to know the secret to loyalty and positive word of mouth? The first half: Great products at a fair price. The second half: This. It’s that simple.
Or… you could just hide behind the usual excuse (“we don’t have the manpower to deal with every case in this way”), suspend account after account without explanation, make a point of being as impersonal as possible, and build an army of haters.
Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Excuses have an effective range of about zero meters. We all build the companies we want to build.
At least for now, it looks like Pinterest is on the right track. Everyone should take note.
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Outstanding blog. You are nonpareil in your blogs, I do believe. A pleasure to read.
Love this right here. Interest is yet to disappoint me. The buzz about them renaming files and capitalizing on the images pinned, was an uninformed, pointless storm in a teacup based on one person’s opinion.
Your insight goes far beyond social media, marketing and brands and makes us look at how we deal with life these days in this ever changing world. I often share your blogs with the agency I work with and social marketing team at the office to slow them down to really look at what we are doing and why. This ‘conversation’ we are all having these days is constantly changing and not always easy to understand. Your thoughtful observation is much appreciated.
Olivier, The reason most companies respond in a way we are not fond of is the same reason everyone chases the ambulance. This is where the old Industrial Age and the new Information Age meet and collide.
The Industrial Age has a winner and a loser, the Information Age is where everyone is an expert. The former must have consequence, the latter doesn’t care, it’s going to be heard whether you like it or not.
That may not make sense to you, but most of these large Social Networks and BIg Corps. are about control, they punish because they can. Pinterest showed everyone a better way, they didn’t take the megaphone away from the the said user, they merely gave him another option instead of squashing him like a bug.
If the follower was not deemed important to Pinterest, they would have done just that, squashing him from exsistence. Which has always lead me to the arguement that a follower, a fan, and a like has a value, and is part of an ROI. But you and I have had that talk before.
When we actually back up how we feel about a follower, a user, a fan, and or a like, we show that we value them, afterall, they are our business.
As usual old friend, thank you for what you do, and thank you for sharing this interaction between the status quo and doing the right thing.
Blessings, Owen
Incidents always beget precedents and they in turn drive future engagement. Nice to see a social media player get it right. Nice to have it pointed out in your blog here.
Thanks Billy
Inherently, I agree, and I think the way Pinterest handled this situation is fabulous (and other social networks SHOULD take note). However, I think it’s a bit unfair to compare the way Pinterest deals with a situation like this (in the relative infancy of their network), and the way Facebook does. Pinterest has 10.4M registered users, Facebook has 845M. The user base for Facebook is much more diverse and complex, and, though using tactics like this one rather than the draconian measures I’ve heard about would be great, it is unrealistic. For every one fake Mitt Romney on Pinterest, there are 50, 60, 70…many more on Facebook with much more malicious intent.
I don’t think Facebook handles incidents such as this one right all the time, and I think there’s a happy medium that’s closer to the way Pinterest does things. But you do have to take scale into account.
I’ve watched friends have their Facebook accounts summarily suspended for inviting people to a birthday party or a Christmas dinner. There’s scale and then there’s not giving a shit. Scale, we can talk about. Not giving a shit, not so much. Unfortunately, Facebook seems to use the first as a reason to justify the second. I think Facebook makes enough bank that it can afford a handful of account care folks now.
While I do agree with Anna that Facebook has to deal with issues differently as a much bigger community, I also believe in good old fashioned customer service. Pinterest may not be able to keep up with the highly personalized communications as their community grows, but you do catch more flies with honey. However, you can also run into some people with fly swatters who will not be as considerate in their replies as Eric. I would also point out that Facebook’s attitude has not seem to hurt their business much. Sure, I’ve heard of people leaving (somewhat akin to the urban legend) but for now they can pretty much tell their fans to suck it and still be #1 – or until Google + steps up their game, and then we may see people leaving in droves.
This reminds me of a previous post you made quite some time on flight attendants.
I think the Pinterest approach is one many of us can admire. It is easy to get a bit frustrated when you are in that kind of position and not react that way but we can see what an awesome team they have at Pinterest where they easily turned this into a positive experience.
Argh! This has nothing to do with free speech rights. Not even a little bit.
Bravo.
I’m going to share this with my 2 teenage daughters. It is a clear explanation of how disputes should be handled. Hopefully, it will help them deal with each other, and the world, a bit better.
Thanks for the brilliant post and I didn’t think it was possible but this event made me more of a fan of Pinterest (and of course you)
You went a step way beyond with this and gave every business with the list of How to handle customer care & community management responses in instances like this:
Pinterest gave their community member their support. They showed that they trust their members – they did not over-react, they reached out and arrived at a solution that worked for all.
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Finally, true customer service that is authentic and delivered with such sincerity. This is spot on and I could not agree more with your take on this. As someone who is adept at handling sticky situations, I don’t think I would have handled this quite as well. Thanks for sharing a situation we can all learn from.
Just want to point out that Enid is a woman. Great blog though.
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Pinboarding is a create way to organize content. I am surprised it has taken so long for this to take off. Pinterest has done a great job and their growth over the last several months is a testament to that. I think you will see a lot of people cloning this like what happened with groupon. There are already companies doing pinterest clones.
Lovely examination of grace and civility in the gray areas along the bleeding edges of new apps and their users; makes me want to rename this post, “What I like about Olivier’s blog”
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To be honest I’m in love with Pinterest and yes, the DEMS will win in 2012.Sorry for getting political but that’s how I feel.
I agree, I hope so, and how you feel is perfectly ok.
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